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LCQ19: Manpower for psychiatric nurses

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        Following is a question by the Hon Michael Mak and a written reply by the Secretary for Health, Welfare and Food, Dr Yeoh Eng-kiong, in the Legislative Council today (March 3):

 

Question:

 

        In regard to the staffing of registered nurses (psychiatric) (RNs(P)), will the Government inform this Council:

 

(a)    of the target ratio of RNs(P) to patients determined by the Hospital Authority (HA), and the actual ratio at the end of each of the past five years;

 

(b)    of the numbers of patient-days in respect of psychiatry inpatient services, attendances and new cases at psychiatric specialist outpatient clinics, as well as service attendances for community psychiatric services provided by HA in each of the past five years;

 

(c)    of the respective numbers of RNs(P) employed by HA and the Department of Health at the end of each of the past five years, and the numbers of new appointees and those who left the service, broken down by ranks and salary points respectively, in each of the past five years; and

 

(d)    based on the target ratio of RNs(P) to patients, the number of such nurses in service and their wastage rate, and the number of patients, of the number of places of pre-employment courses for such nurses that should have been offered in each of the past five years; the respective numbers of actual places of those courses and graduates in each of the past five years, as well as the number of places that will be offered in each of the next three years; and provide breakdowns of the aforesaid numbers based on places and graduates by training institutions, levels of the courses, and whether such courses are public-funded?

 

Reply:

 

Madam President,

 

(a)    The Hospital Authority (HA) plans its manpower for psychiatric nurses by making reference to factors such as service type, patients' dependency, unit size and bed occupancy rate, etc.  A simple ratio of psychiatric nurses to patients is not sufficient for the purpose of manpower planning.  HA has therefore not set a target ratio.  The actual manpower situation in the past five years can be seen from the reply to parts (b) and (c). 

 

(b)    The data are shown in Table 1.

 

(c)    The number, intake and turnover of RNs(P) in HA for the past five years are shown in Table 2.

 

        Some new appointees were enrolled nurses before being appointed as RNs(P).  These appointees enjoyed a salary point higher than the minimum salary point of RNs(P) in their previous post.  They were thus offered a salary at their original salary point on appointment as RN(P)s and the salary offered differed from case to case, depending on the appointee's original salary.  Other new appointees entered at the minimum salary point in the past five years are shown in Table 3.

 

        The salary points of those who left the service range from Point 15 (HK$20,010 for 02/03) to Point 26 (HK$33,705 for 99/00 & 00/01; HK$ 34,505 for 01/02; HK$34,505 and HK33,940 for 02/03; HK$33,940 and HK32,900 for 03/04). (See note)

 

        The Department of Health has not employed any RNs(P) in the past five years. 

 

(d)    There is no UGC-funded programme that specifically trains psychiatric nurses.  We understand that there are currently two self-financed psychiatric nursing education programmes offered by the local universities, one being offered by the Chinese University of Hong Kong (CUHK), with an annual training capacity of 30, and the other by the Hong Kong Polytechnic University (HKPU), with an annual training capacity of around 60.  The CUHK programme commenced in 2001.  To date, there have been 19 graduates from the course offered by the CUHK.  The HKPU programme commenced in 2002 and there has been no graduate yet.  At present, there are a total of 49 employees from HA enrolled in the two programmes in 2003.  A cumulative total of 87 HA nurses are currently studying in the two programmes and they are expected to graduate as registered psychiatric nurse in the next 18 months.  We have no information as yet on the training capacity of these two self-financed psychiatric nursing education programmes in the coming years. 

 

Note: There was only departure by an RN(P) at point 15 in 02/03 while there were departures by RNs(P) at point 26 in each of the past five years.

 

 

Ends/Wednesday, March 3, 2004

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Table 1

Type

1999/00

2000/01

2001/02

2002/03

2003/04

(up to Jan 04)

Patient days for psychiatric services(incl. Mentally handicapped services)

1,887,811

1,853,017

1,695,559

1,650,665

1,322,871

Psychiatric SOP attendances

432,046

471,228

511,127

549,133

447,297

SOP New cases

20,148

21,398

24,224

26,005

17,802

Community psychiatric service attendances and home visits

49,363

57,002

71,408

82,199

66,348

 

 

Table 2

RNs(P)

1999/00

2000/01

2001/02

2002/03

2003/04

(up to Jan 04)

Intake*

86

92

110

23

19

Turnover

5

2

12

7

19

No. of RN(P)

787

877

978

994

977

* Intake includes external recruits and internal graduating nurses in HA.

Table 3

Year

Minimum Point

99/00

Point 17

HK$22,075

00/01

01/02

02/03

April 03 �V Dec 03

Point 15

HK$20,010

Jan 04 onwards

Point 15

HK$19,463

12 Apr 2019